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Couple of interesting notes from pickup snakes last night.

1. We used a two-reaper strat for Mursaat overseer, and it was glorious. The log for that is attached. If you compare that to our previous kill (also below), notice the difference with the Jade Scout hits. The 2 scouts did almost nothing before they were dead, and we only had to face 2 because the middle two never made it to transform. Easy mode.

2. And I was thinking a bit about Xera and the issue of add control. Take a look at the overall vs. boss damage for the condi rangers vs Odd's old-timey fire-staff ele. Odd was carrying us for add control, and the different was VERY noticeable when he got ported for mini-games during the last phase. The great condi ranger damage was a big part of why we got that particular kill, of course. I'm just not sure what the right balance for single-target and aoe damage is.

MO 3-4-17 2-Reaper kill.html

MO 2-27-17 kill.html

Xera_3-4-17_4_kill.html

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On 3/4/2017 at 11:07 AM, Mold said:

Couple of interesting notes from pickup snakes last night.

1. We used a two-reaper strat for Mursaat overseer, and it was glorious. The log for that is attached. If you compare that to our previous kill (also below), notice the difference with the Jade Scout hits. The 2 scouts did almost nothing before they were dead, and we only had to face 2 because the middle two never made it to transform. Easy mode.

2. And I was thinking a bit about Xera and the issue of add control. Take a look at the overall vs. boss damage for the condi rangers vs Odd's old-timey fire-staff ele. Odd was carrying us for add control, and the different was VERY noticeable when he got ported for mini-games during the last phase. The great condi ranger damage was a big part of why we got that particular kill, of course. I'm just not sure what the right balance for single-target and aoe damage is.

MO 3-4-17 2-Reaper kill.html

MO 2-27-17 kill.html

Xera_3-4-17_4_kill.html

If you look at 2/25 numbers here, Odd carried add DPS even harder on Engi with 22k, while still doing 2k higher boss DPS.  This makes sense given that Engi bomb auto hits really hard and hits 5 targets, to say nothing of the other AoE they bring to the table.  Plus this brings Pinpoint Distribution for the Ranger(s), several AoE blinds (including a blinding field with Smoke Bomb), and decent breaks.

It sounds like swapping in a strong add clearing class for one Ranger might reduce the RNG factor when it comes to minigames and add management.  This could be Engi, Fire Ele, FA Staff, Sc/WH, or even D/WH Ele.  I overestimated how well Rangers would clear adds, but it makes sense now -- they have a lot of AoE damage, but because it's part of the rotation it might not be available when you need it.  Ranger and any form of Ele are also heavily subject to alacrity uptime while Engi is not so much dependent.

TL;DR = swap one Ranger for a strong add clearing class like Engi or Ele and we may win more reliably

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15 hours ago, Strangelove said:

I'll be traveling tomorrow evening so I won't be available.  Best of luck.

Pyro gonna chronooooooooooo

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That's a great point, kintari, I didn't think to compare the engie #s, but they showed the same thing. And I'm on board with that conclusion.

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46 minutes ago, spltscreen said:

I should be available on the bench starting at 8:00 PM tonight.

Great! Ser is on board for the night, and we'll have someone else pop in for the first few bosses. I think Pyro and Odd are both in.

We can talk tonight about whether or not we want to chase challenge modes immediately this week (my instincts is that many people want to do that). We do have a couple of folks in the group who are still working on the crystalline heart achievements for a couple of bosses, so that's something to remember. Given that we'll be short Strange tonight, maybe we could see if we can do a full w4 clear on regular mode tonight? We could have strange open for CMs on Wednesday.

Or, we could do something else. We'll chat about it before raid.

 

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Definitely would appreciate another crack at the remaining Crystalline Heart items. Still need the Jade Heart and, of course, the Deimos kill for the Demonic Heart. Also still looking for my first Samarog kill. But, please don't let that dictate the direction of the evening. I'm just happy to tag along xD

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